The UHJ deceived millions of Baha'is to believe that they're not proselytizing.


Baha'i Hack Scott Hakala gets exposed on /r/exbahai

Hello u/DavidbinOwen (Scott Hakala) and welcome to r/exbahai. About an hour ago, your comment on this sub made the following points:
  • Most of us did not provide a "great reason for leaving".
  • Most of us are "not very positive about life or much else".
  • Many ex-Baha'is do not participate on this sub because of its negativity, disparagement, and misrepresentation of the Faith.
How about I tackle the first point since the last two are obvious broad assumptions on your part? Let's see...what's a great reason for leaving a religion? How about deception? Here an example:
It is true that Bahá'u'lláh lays on every Bahá'í the duty to teach His Faith. At the same time, however, we are forbidden to proselytize, so it is important for all believers to understand the difference between teaching and proselytizing. It is a significant difference and, in some countries where teaching a religion is permitted, but proselytizing is forbidden, the distinction is made in the law of the land. Proselytizing implies bringing undue pressure to bear upon someone to change his Faith. It is also usually understood to imply the making of threats or the offering of material benefits as an inducement to conversion. In some countries mission schools or hospitals, for all the good they do, are regarded with suspicion and even aversion by the local authorities because they are considered to be material inducements to conversion and hence instruments of proselytization.
(The Universal House of Justice, Messages 1963 to 1986, p. 513)
The definition of "proselytize":
v. intr.
(1) to induce someone to convert to one's faith
(2) to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause
v. tr.
to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause
(Merriam Webster Dictionary)
...
convert or attempt to convert (someone) from one religion, belief, or opinion to another
(Oxford Dictionary)
...
to try to persuade people to share your religious or political beliefs
(Macmillan Dictionary)
...
to convert (someone) from one religious faith to another
(Collins English Dictionary)
...
(1) to try to convert (a person), especially to one's religion
(2) to persuade to do or join something, especially by offering an inducement
(Webster's New World College Dictionary)
...
English
to try to persuade someone to change their religious or political beliefs or way of living to your own
American
to try to persuade someone to change his or her religious beliefs, political party, etc., to your own
(Cambridge Dictionary)
...
v. intr.
(1) to attempt to convert someone to one's own religious faith
(2) to attempt to persuade someone to join one's own political party or to espouse one's doctrine
v.tr.
to convert (a person) from one belief, doctrine, cause, or faith to another
(American Heritage Dictionary)
...
v. intr.
to make converts or proselytes
v. tr.
to convert to some religion, system, opinion, or the like; to bring, or cause to come, over; to proselyte
(Webster's 1913 Dictionary)
To conclude, the UHJ deceived millions of Baha'is to believe that they're not proselytizing in the absence of coercion by conveniently redefining the word to require coercion. Why? To disassociate themselves from its negative connotation and subsequently, they adopted the euphemism, "teaching".

EDIT: I didn't dox because you revealed your name yesterday on Reddit.

Source : https://www.reddit.com/r/exbahai/comments/77oy2f/welcome/

Baha'is using innocent school kids to promote their cult in India. How low these people can go!?

Abdul Baha's knowledge about Torah!


'Abdu'l-Baha repeatedly asserted that the Torah punishes theft with amputation of the hand.

For during the Mosaic period the hand of a person was cut off in punishment of a small theft; ... You say he [Jesus] abrogated the Torah, but I say he promulgated the Torah, the ten commandments and all the questions which belong to its moral world. But he changed the following: That for a small theft one must cut of the hand.

('Abdu'l-Bahá on Christ and Christianity)

The exigencies of the time of Moses justified cutting off a man’s hand for theft, but such a penalty is not allowable now.

(The Promulgation of Universal Peace, p. 365)

For example, according to the law of the Torah if a man committed theft of a certain amount, they cut off his hand. Is it practicable and reasonable in this present day to cut off a man’s hand for the theft of a dollar?

(The Promulgation of Universal Peace, p. 404)

In the time of Moses, there were ten crimes punishable by death. When Christ came this was changed; the old axiom 'an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth' was converted into 'Love your enemies, do good to them that hate you', the stern old law being changed into one of love, mercy and forbearance!

In the former days the punishment for theft was the cutting off of the right hand; in our time this law could not be so applied. In this age, a man who curses his father is allowed to live, when formerly he would have been put to death.

(Paris Talks, p. 142)

Contrast these statements with what the Torah really teaches.

If a man steals an ox or a sheep, and slaughters it or sells it, he shall restore five oxen for an ox and four sheep for a sheep. If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed. If the sun has risen on him, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed. He should make full restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft. If the theft is certainly found alive in his hand, whether it is an ox or donkey or sheep, he shall restore double.

(Exodus 22:1-4 NKJV)

Source : https://www.reddit.com/r/exbahai/comments/77dohc/punishment_for_theft/ 

Bicentenary Celebrations only for the propagation of Baha’i faith.



Supreme Baha’i Administrative body, the UHJ in one of its message states :

“These glorious Festivals will be opportunities for Bahá’ís in every land to attract the largest possible number of believers, their families, friends, and collaborators, as well as others from the wider society, to commemorate moments…”

(Universal House of Justice, 29 December 2015 to the Conference of the Continental Boards of Counsellors, paragraph 50)

A non functioning hotel owner asked his employees, how to increase their hotel’s prestige and to improve their business?

“The public relations officer proposed that the management stage a celebration of the hotel’s thirtieth anniversary. A committee is formed, including a prominent banker, a leading society matron, a well-known lawyer, an influential preacher, and a banquet planned to call attention to the distinguished service the hotel has been rendering the community. The celebration is held, photographs are taken, the occasion is widely reported, and the object is accomplished.”

The situation is not very different with the Baha’i Faith where the Baha’i officials routinely stage events and try to propagate about the Baha’i Faith in which they try to interact and try to present themselves in the best possible light. They orchestrate a situation as Baha’i faith organization wants it to and proceeds in ways that favor the Baha’i Faith. This orchestra is done because Baha’i faith has zero acceptability amongst the general masses it failed miserably to let people believe that a man made faith can gain the status of a revealed religion.

Recently The Baha’i Administration wants to celebrate the 200 years of their twin manifestation Bab and Baha’u’llah for that they have send the invitation to every political leaders of every country. The Messages which these political leaders have given out of courtesy is posted and propagated all over the world and it is shown in the light as if the leaders have some affection and attraction for Baha’i Faith. Let these leaders be assured that after their demise these messages will be shown as a proof of them accepting the Baha’i Faith. The Baha’i Faith and hypocrisy are synonyms.

These celebration also have dinner event for ultra rich and influential leaders (read dinner diplomacy) to show that most who participate in them are also fairly accepting the Baha’i Faith, or at least highly appreciative of Baha’i Faith.

A message given by the Universal House of Justice (highest governing body of the Baha’is) on the Bicentenary celebration dated 1, October 2017, refers to every non Baha’i of the world as SEEKERS to attain the shores of Ocean (means to embrace Baha’i Faith as all other revealed religion are manmade dogmas) . Extract of reference is reproduced as under:

“It is the duty of every seeker to bestir himself and strive to attain the shores of this ocean,” Bahá’u’lláh states. The spiritual teachings brought by successive Messengers through the ages found expression in religious systems that, over time, have become fused with aspects of culture and weighed down with man-made dogmas.”

Finally, The House of Justice asks the Baha’is to translate the message into other languages and to distribute to all the Local Assemblies and hopes that, the message will remind the friends of the privilege that belongs to them in acquainting others with the Cause of Baha’ u’llah i.e. propagation Of Baha’i Faith.

What a deceit! What a cheating!. What a fraud in the name of Unity of Religions.

Baha'is cannot participate in demonstrations for peace but they themselves can organize demonstrations if it serves their interests!


Over 180 Baha'is and non-Baha'is march from Baha'i House of Worship (Lotus Temple) to Iskon temple on 1st April 2012 to protest the "illegal detention" of Yaran. The program was in collaboration with U4I and two other organizations, namely, Asian Centre for Human Rights and Trans Asia Alliance.


The Universal House of Justice, Department of the Secretariat states:

…You state that there are large-scale demonstrations…and you inquire about the appropriateness of Bahá'ís participating in demonstrations for peace.…while these activities are generally carried out in the name of peace, such occasions are motivated by highly political and controversial sentiments at a time of turmoil and confusion in the world.… to become associated with such activities, it could also be harmful to the interests of the Faith internationally. … As you can no doubt understand, Bahá'í participation in public demonstrations involving controversial issues would undermine the Faith's essential purpose of promoting unity in all aspects of human affairs…

(2003 Mar 27, Participation in Anti-War Demonstrations)

How Baha'i Politics works? Check some UHJ letters here

Abdul Baha : All men will adhere to one religion, will have one common faith...

One of the great events which is to occur in the Day of the manifestation of that Incomparable Branch is the hoisting of the Standard of God among all nations. By this is meant that all nations and kindreds will be gathered together under the shadow of this Divine Banner, which is no other than the Lordly Branch itself, and will become a single nation. Religious and sectarian antagonism, the hostility of races and peoples, and differences among nations will be eliminated. All men will adhere to one religion, will have one common faith, will be blended into one race and become a single people. All will dwell in one common fatherland, which is the planet itself. Universal peace and concord will be established among all nations.

('Abdu'l-Bahá. Some Answered Questions. On the Influence of the Prophets. 12. Commentary of the Eleventh Chapter of Isaiah. Paragraphs. 4-7. Pgs. 73-75)

Video : Oneness of Religion and the Baha'i Faith

Why I am a Baha'i!? Satire


I've been browsing anti-Baha'i websites from time to time and noticed that many people misunderstand the teachings of the Faith or perhaps, deliberately misrepresent them to the public. Since it is my duty as a Bahá'í to defend the Faith, I'll take this opportunity to faithfully represent some of our noble principles.

Equality of Men and Women

The Faith affirms the equality of men and women. Unlike some religions that claim to believe in gender equality but what they really mean is that men and women are equal in the eyes of God, we stand for its true meaning: equal opportunities regardless of sex. Those religions continue to discriminate against women and claim that it is God's inscrutable wisdom. Ha! Nice try justifying sexism. Furthermore, unlike some religions that have a man or men who govern over womankind, in the Faith, women enjoy the same rights and responsibilities as their counterparts.

Independent Investigation of Truth

The Faith mandates everyone to undergo an independent investigation of truth and as a corollary, members are permitted and even encouraged to read and respond to the writings of heretics and critics. Look how glorious the Faith is! Other religions discourage members in the strongest terms from reading certain books and even possessing them. In contrast, Bahá'ís are exhorted to avoid blind faith by challenging their beliefs.

Oneness of Humanity

Unlike some religions that discriminate against gays, the Faith welcomes them with open arms. How can these religions bring oneness to humanity when 2% or 140 million people in the world are exclusively gay? In contrast, the Faith doesn't label their sexual orientation as a handicap, affliction, problem, etc. We don't use such hurtful language. We don't tolerate homophobia. As an exclusive heterosexual, I know that I would slowly lose my mind if I was forced to spend my life as a celibate so why would I expect it from others?

Oneness of Religion

No matter what a person may believe, in the Faith, we embrace everyone with open arms. That's right, even if someone has a heretical belief, we show them as much love as others. After all, the Faith affirms the oneness of all religions. Some religions shun and subsequently, separate friends and even family members because of the differences of creed. How on earth can these religions bring unity to the world? There's no greater truth than love and that is why the Faith does not tolerate analogies like cancer, leprosy, and poison to refer to people with certain beliefs.

Service to Humanity

Some religions proselytize incessantly. They hide behind euphemisms like witnessing, evangelizing, etc. In contrast, the Faith doesn't expend all or even most of the its time, energy, and money on telling our neighbours that they're wrong or to put it nicely, not right enough. After all, we believe in the oneness of religion so instead, we lower our standard of living if we have to and actually help people. Just as poverty knows no religion, humanitarian work knows no religion. It's unfortunate how some religions build and maintain grandiose temples, often times surrounded by poverty. The real temple is the human heart and that's why we would rather feed an orphan than have a multimillion dollar temple.

The story of Denis MacEoin's expulsion by Juan Cole


Denis MacEoin did not withdraw from the faith, he was chased out by powerful Baha'i fundamentalists who were deeply threatened by the implications of his historical work. Denis became a Baha'i in North Ireland around 1965 and quickly emerged as a Baha'i youth leader. He was chosen to come to Haifa to commemorate the 1968 anniversary of Baha'u'llah's Letters to the Kings.

He then wrote the House saying he did not know whether to serve the Faith by becoming an academic scholar of the Middle East or by going pioneering. They wrote back that either path would be praiseworthy. (They later stabbed him in the back about this). He therefore entered graduate school at Edinburgh in Middle East Studies, then went on to Cambridge University for his Ph.D. He was the first academic to study the Babi movement with all the tools of modern scholarship, and his findings were groundbreaking.

Denis made the mistake of continuing to be an active Baha'i. Since the community is so heavily dominated by aggressive fundamentalist fanatics, if a genuine academic wants to be a Baha'i s/he has to keep a low profile. Denis did not. He gave summer school talks. He was once viciously attacked by Abu al-Qasim Faizi. His new ideas were upsetting the conservative British community. He objected when the Baha'i authorities supported dictators like Pinochet and Bokassa. He corresponded with the Los Angeles Study Class and some of his letters were published in their newsletter (a newsletter that the Baha'i authorities later closed down, for all the world like Tehran ayatollahs pulling a publishing license).

Around 1980, fundamentalist UHJ members Ian Semple and David Hoffman called Denis to a meeting and told him he would have to fall silent (rather as the Vatican did to Leonardo Boff). Hoffman was especially harsh. Denis declined to fall silent, and ultimately withdrew from the Faith. He was pushed out by anti-intellectual bigots who had risen high in the Baha'i hierarchy and become Infallible. Denis's works on the Babi and Baha'i movements are some of the few pieces of solid scholarship that exist. Instead of being grateful to him for sacrificing all those years living in penury as a graduate student, studying Arabic and Persian, traveling to a dangerous Middle East, all for the service of Baha'u'llah, the community could think of nothing better to do than viciously attack him and throw him in the gutter of infamy.

Denis's story is the story of most thinking people who have anything serious to do with the Baha'i faith. Either they adopt a cult-like mindset of true believers and covenant breakers, in which case they gradually cease being thinking persons, or they get chased out by the wild-eyed. A few people manage to avoid either fate by not drawing attention to themselves. The Baha'i Extreme Orthodox are like the Borg in Star Trek. They want to assimilate you, but might leave you alone if you stay quiet.

cheers

Juan Cole

Source : https://fglaysher.com/bahaicensorship/MacEoin.htm
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